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PostPosted: 24 Jan 2009, 07:56 
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Pure image quality is superior IMO, basically digital vs analog.

Blacks arn't all that great but they are not that bad either.

The only real negative to an LCD in my opinion is ghosting.


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PostPosted: 24 Jan 2009, 08:12 
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Maybe I just have fond memories of a CRT then? The space saving element is certainly appreciated mind.
I'll be honest though, the thing that really bugs me is this dynamic contrast, I just can't get over it to be honest,
Perhaps you could define ghosting for me? I'm a bit of a noob. :-)


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PostPosted: 24 Jan 2009, 09:11 
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Smaller panels only go up to 1680x1050.


Not true, some 22" are 1920x1080.


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PostPosted: 24 Jan 2009, 23:05 
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I'll be honest though, the thing that really bugs me is this dynamic contrast, I just can't get over it to be honest,
Perhaps you could define ghosting for me?

Dynamic contrast is a marketing buzzword. It means "we would like you to believe that this monitor has better image quality than a monitor that does not claim dynamic contrast." Pragmatically, it means nothing at all.
Ghosting is basically unwanted motion blur that occurs from the monitor not being able to update the screen fast enough to keep up with the frame rate. It was a problem with older LCDs that had slower response times, like 40ms and 60ms, but nowadays you'd be hard pressed to find a monitor with a greater response time than 16ms. 16ms is all you need to keep up with a frame rate of 60FPS, so ghosting isn't really an issue any more.


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PostPosted: 25 Jan 2009, 14:33 
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Ok, maybe it would be better for me if I explained my qualms in non technical jargon then :-)

By Dynamic Contrast (which is probably something completely different) I mean how the monitor clearly and visibly 'fades' when darker colours are on screen and brightens up when ligher colours are on screen. I find this a bit of a nightmare when playing games and viewing things when they are on screen and a mixture of both light and dark colours.

from what i interpret as 'ghosting' it is the blur that you get when reading text, as it sometimes, in certain parts of the monitor appears 'fuzzy'

Would a different type of monitor (PVA) or that dell on in the posts above fix these issues.

It's quite strange. I never seem to have a problem with them on Laptops :S


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PostPosted: 25 Jan 2009, 20:08 
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I mean how the monitor clearly and visibly 'fades' when darker colours are on screen and brightens up when ligher colours are on screen. I find this a bit of a nightmare when playing games and viewing things when they are on screen and a mixture of both light and dark colours.

A good monitor will never do this. Even bad ones that do usually have an option to turn it off.

from what i interpret as 'ghosting' it is the blur that you get when reading text, as it sometimes, in certain parts of the monitor appears 'fuzzy'

That's not ghosting. Are you using a VGA cable by any chance? If so, you should be using a DVI cable. Some LCD monitors get fuzzy when using VGA, and text quality suffers the worst.


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PostPosted: 25 Jan 2009, 22:28 
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Thats what ghosting looks like


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PostPosted: 27 Jan 2009, 15:40 
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Aha! It must be the VGA input, you see I am using my DVI for my PS3 as this monitor doesnt have HDMI. :( does that dell one have 2 digital inputs or an HDMI one, as I'm gonna need it.


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PostPosted: 28 Jan 2009, 01:31 
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It does not have HDMI. I suggest you buy an HDMI switch - there's no quality lost by introducing a switch. Just make sure it claims HDMI 1.3 compatibility, and make sure it has good reviews (a bad one can introduce input lag).


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PostPosted: 29 Jan 2009, 05:29 
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good stuff, any particular recommendations?


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