Widescreen Gaming Forum

And here's an overlay i photoshoped as acurately as i could, representing the area on the scenery viewable on each resolution, and how the 16:9 gets croped on top and bottom.

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the 4:3 and 16:10 height difference is for the 16:10 FOV being 100º instead of 100.4º; as you can see, nothing to worry about, you can play with FOV100 and it'll feel exactly the same.

I have a few questions.

Is the SP mode, in your opinion, worth bothering with? Or at least more worthwhile than the SP modes of previous UTs?

Is there any way to apply the FreeFOV mutator to the SP mode?

How practical is it to join a game which uses the FreeFOV mutator?

Can the FOV be increased beyond 100 through a console?

--Is the SP mode, in your opinion, worth bothering with? Or at least more worthwhile than the SP modes of previous UTs?

Not sure what to tell you, i started it but lost interest. It does have a plot so its not just playing matches after matches to win the tournament. Also sometimes you have several matches to choose from and you play them in the order you like. I guess you should try to see if you like it.

it might be better than other UTs, after all i haven't finished it, but it for sure doesnt compare to anything like call of duty and games like that.


--Is there any way to apply the FreeFOV mutator to the SP mode?

If you mean in the Solo campain i think no, unless theres a console command to do it which could be, but i dont know :/

You can play single matches against bots and use the mutator, however.


--How practical is it to join a game which uses the FreeFOV mutator?

You would have to look for people who's server uses the Mutator, i would take a look at the mutator authors page or on epic's forums ans see if there's any comunity of people out there who use this.


--Can the FOV be increased beyond 100 through a console?

Ive tried through console and from .ini files found in my documents/my saved games/unreal tournament 3/... but have had no luck at all.

I could however alter the fov slider in the game's options to slide from 80 to 200, but then selected anything beyond 100, and it wouldn't do anything.

I guess you should try to see if you like it.

I can't. I don't have the game, or a computer that could run it. I wasn't asking the question for my own benefit - the grading depends on whether the game's SP mode counts or not.

Let me rephrase the question. In previous UT's, the singleplayer mode does not count. In all of the CoD's, the singleplayer mode does count. Should the SP mode count in UT3?

I guess I have one other question. In multiplayer mode, does using the mutator restrict you in any ways? That is, are there any ways you can play UT3 without FreeFOV enabled that you cannot with FreeFOV enabled? Does it conflict with any of the game's built-in or popular gameplay modes or other mutators? Is it friendly with all of them?

Basically, I'm trying to determine whether or not the FreeFOV should be considered the "official" WSGF solution or not. I'm thinking yes, but I can't be 100% sure without playing the game myself. That's why I'm asking a lot of questions to you, who have played it.

I dont think so.

As i said it has a more developed plot than previous games in the series but we all know that UT is all about the multiplayer. Also, for unreal single player there's Unreal and Unreal 2 which i loved :P

If single player in previous games wasn't considered, i wouldn't do it for this one either, but i would like to know the opinion of some more people as well. :)

I guess I have one other question. In multiplayer mode, does using the mutator restrict you in any ways? That is, are there any ways you can play UT3 without FreeFOV enabled that you cannot with FreeFOV enabled? Does it conflict with any of the game's built-in or popular gameplay modes or other mutators? Is it friendly with all of them?

There is nothing wrong that i know of, the mutator is limited itself to FOV130 so that camera won't clip through walls and stuff like that.

Also the author doesnt mention bugs or limitations except "a momentary glitch when entering/leaving vehicles".

I will take a closer look since i myself haven't put to much time into trying it out, but it looks pretty solid.

Here's the author's info on how to use the mutator:

Add the mutator when starting a game, as normal. With it running, open the console (press TAB for the quick console or F10 for the full console by default) and type mutate fov 90 (or whatever your desired FOV is in place of the 90) and press return. The value you last set will be saved in the INI file so that it can be appplied next time you run the mutator. The FOV value is a client-side setting, so if you join a server running this mutator, you will get your own chosen FOV. The allowed values for FOV are 70-130o. Values above 130 are disallowed because the camera starts to clip, allowing players to see through walls.

Ok! I've got the basic info now. The mutator will be our endorsed solution, and I have a grade now. Just two more things:

I'm assuming that if the host is not using the mutator, then it won't work client-side, and you'll be stuck with 100 FOV. Is this correct?

Also, can you make two more screenshots with the mutator enabled? One at 4:3 FOV=90, one at 4:3 FOV=106.3.

Thanks.

And the grade:

Calculated grade: D+

Major unresolved issues: None
Minor unresolved issues: None

Summary of widescreen-related flaws:
Hack solution
Host-reliant solution
Stretched HUD

Cranky's coverage estimate: 98.5%

I'm assuming that if the host is not using the mutator, then it won't work client-side, and you'll be stuck with 100 FOV. Is this correct?

That's correct.

Also, can you make two more screenshots with the mutator enabled? One at 4:3 FOV=90, one at 4:3 FOV=106.3.

I've done it, but after looking to it closer i see the console command doesn't read decimals in the FOV, so it's limited to 106 instead of 106,3 :(

For perfect FOVs i've found that editing the FreeFov mutator .ini works.


The pics:

4:3 Fov90


FreeFov for 16:9 (console command) Fov106

Sorry. I made a typo in my request. I meant "one at 4:3 FOV=90, one at 16:9 FOV=106.3."

UPDATE:

I finally found a way to get it perfect!

To get the correct FOV with decimals the file has to be edited, the console command won't recognize decimals. So:

Once Freefov is installed, you have to edit the file UTMutator_FreeFOV.ini in C:Users(yourusername)DocumentsMy GamesUnreal Tournament 3UTGameConfig

For 19:9 last line should be edited to:



and for 16:10:



New pics:

4:3 FOV 90:


FreeFov (edited ini) for 16:9, FOV 106.270273:


You can now see how the top and bottom borders are exactly the same on both pics.