Widescreen Gaming Forum

UPDATE:

DID IT! Got the monitor installed and that did indeed unlock 5040 in all games (selectable in their menu's).

Here's How:

Do everything the same as below except:

7. Instead of putting the path to the driver in that upper text box, click on the green arrow just below that says: "Let me pick from a list of device drivers on my computer".
8. Click on Have Disk...nav to location of gxm.inf
9. Ta-da!

Now I'm off to re-install the dreaded GXM to see if it will continue to disable my 5040 res at each bootup.

But this is some REAL BIG PROGRESS here, people!

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OK, I CANNOT get Windows to install the monitor driver.

1. Display Settings
2. Advanced Settings...
3. Monitor...Properties...Generic PnP Monitor
4. Properties
5. Update Driver
6. Browse My Computer...
7. Navigate to GXM.inf location
8. Windows spits back:
9 "Windows has determined the driver software for your device is up to date"

I have tried deleting the generic Pnp driver, and reinstalling from the "Add hardware" cpl. Windows will then say:

"The folder you specified does not contain a compatible software driver for your device."

I am going insane. Maybe I should blow out the install and start over.

One quick question. Did you install the monitor driver before or after you installed the GXM? I'm trying to install it *after* the GXM has been installed.

Next, I'll try uninstalling GXM and then trying to install the monitor driver.

F*CK THIS SHIT!!!!

*sigh* Sorry.

OK, installing GXM kills 5040 at reboot - just like always.

Now, here's where it gets weird. If you then uninstall the GXM, and reboot - the 5040 res is now back and selectable either thru the standard windows res selector or the Nvidia cpl. *Without* having to re-enter the custom res again!

This means all those settings (horiz front porch and all that crap) were still sitting there in the registry (or wherever the nvidia cpl custom res settings get stored), but loading the GXM somehow hid it.

Here's what I think: the GXM somehow (probably thru the service it runs - viewable under msconfig) replaces the "custom res" part of the cpl with it's own set of resolutions from the GXM "Mode List".

Since the GXM "Mode List" does not include the 5040 res, then it "disappears" from the Nvidia cpl.

When you uninstall the GXM (not just exit - that does nothing to stop the GXM service), the Nvidia cpl goes back to using it's own custom res's again. Including the 5040 one you had set up previously.

I wonder if you can run the GXM without its associated service? If so, maybe you can get bezel mgmt without losing access to the 5040 res.

Anyway - that's what I'll try next:

1. Reinstall GXM...Reboot
2. Stop GXM service...see if the GXM app stops.
3. If it does, re-launch the GXM app
4. If it works (incl bezel mgmt) and doesn't kill 5040 (since its Service isn't running anymore), we have a good hack.

OK, I now have 5040x1050 AND Bezel mgmt. under Vista x64.

I thought about demanding to be made an Insider for the 5 hr process it took to figure this out (from 11pm to 4am!!), but then decided to be generous :wink:

Here's what you do.

1. Set up the 5040 custom res
2. Install GXM...reboot
3. You'll lose the 5040 as always.
4. Copy (not move) the install folder of the GXM (c:program files (x86)matrox graphics incpowerdesk se) to anywhere you like.
5. If you want bezel mgmt., go in there and set it up now.
6. Uninstall the GXM...reboot
7. You should be able to select 5040x1050 now (no need to set it up again - it should still be there).
8. Launch "Matrox.PowerDesk SE.exe" from the folder that you copied in step 4.

OK - now you can have your cake and eat it too. You will get your 5040 res back (due to the fact you set it up in step 1). And your "Matrox.PowerDesk SE.exe" (AKA GXM) will give you bezel mgmt. AND all games I've tried can "see" the 5040 res from within their menu's - no need to edit .ini's and crap.

One prob - after you uninstall the GXM, you can't get to the bezel mgmt setup anymore. BUT - if you set up a hotkey combo in step 5, it still works! Weird!

Clearly, something is being installed along with the GXM that is f*cking things up. Not sure what it is, but using the above method, you get what you need: 5040x1050 and Bezel Mgmt.

Yay!!!!! :D :D :D :D

PS - I 1st tried stopping the Matrox Service (can't recall the exact name right now - it's obvious) and preventing it from loading. It didn't work (either way). Something is being installed besides the Service and the GXM itself that screws up the Nvidia cpl's Custom resolutions and replaces them with the list under "Edit Mode List" in the GXM (which still does not include anything better than 3840x800).

So you see Im not crazy! :p
You should always do the "Let me Pick Driver from List.., Browse..", Windows will always (always!) err on the side of caution and keep a similar driver its already installed over a new one.


Weird you are having such a headache with GXM though. I disabled mine from auto starting then made a Shortcut to PowerDesk.exe and placed it in "Startup". The first run is says config has changed, I selected to keep it as it is. Now on every boot I get GXM (via Powerdesk.exe), bezel management and 5040.

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Yeah - that's the next little project is actually getting GXM fully working, but really just having the 5040 rez and bezel mgmt. is what I needed. I'm also too damn scared I'll somehow jack it all up again.

You realize just how many permutations it took to figure this shit out? Jesus!

What I don't get is how the GXM is hooking into the OS if I stop and/or prevent both the GXM and its associated Service from loading. I'm sure there are a million ways and I'm too much of a hobbyist/not enough of a programmer to figure them out.

One question for matt -- did you ever get it to where the 5040 rez shows up under the list of avail. rez under the GXM? Cause that would be the real trick.

One question for matt -- did you ever get it to where the 5040 rez shows up under the list of avail. rez under the GXM? Cause that would be the real trick.

Yeah, that would be the most elegant solution, but afaik it doesnt work for anyone like that.

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The windows registry?

The windows registry?

Unfortunately it's not there. Not that I could find.

Obviously the dang thing almost works - probably a programmer could fix it in an afternoon.

Matrox?

[quote]The windows registry?

Unfortunately it's not there. Not that I could find.

Obviously the dang thing almost works - probably a programmer could fix it in an afternoon.

Matrox?

An alternate registry fix:

Stopping Powerdesk SE (Matrox GXM utility) from removing modes on every boot

Goto to your Powerdesk SE install folder, default (on x64) is C:Program Files (x86)Matrox Graphics IncPowerDesk SE. Open up file DeviceInfo.ini and find the entries "Name=CUST_MODE" and "Name=CustomDisplay". Rename these to something else, something more than just adding "bak" the end however as there are sometimes registry entries named that too.
In the picture below I added "bak3" to the end.

Close and reboot, GXM will give you a warning about reverting or keeping current display setup, select keep. Reboot. It will come up again and may ask for another reboot, do it as required.

It should no longer overwrite your custom resolution as its no longer overwriting your "CUST_MODE" and "CustomDisplay" settings. GXM utility otherwise continues to work as normal, no need to uninstall or move to other folders and no more error messages.

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Brilliant!

I'm off to check it out.